Hi, I'm Kristen with an E, and this is Talk with Kristen with an e. A place to slow down. Be honest, without having all the answers and feel a little less alone together. Let's talk it out.

Hey everybody. Welcome back and welcome to the first episode of season three of Talk with Kristen with an E. I am very excited about this season. As I mentioned, when I closed season two, which was a little bit shorter than I'd planned, I talked about how I was gonna take some downtime over the holidays and record some content and get ready for season three, and I did. And here we are and it's even more exciting because I got to record with some good friends. I am trying to do video now, which is, A little of a learning curve, but we're getting there. And It's just, there's so many exciting things about season three. Before we dive Into all the goodness that season three is, I thought it would be fun to take a little bit of time and kind of look back on season one and two, which is kind of more season one and a half, but look at the themes we covered then and kind of what we learned from it and where we are now. And I say we like. We're the collective, like we've learned these things together and we're at the same place. I realize we're not. Um, maybe we I hope that you have learned some of the things that I have learned also, and that we are. both growing and becoming better people. But this is more about kind of my journey and what I learned in the past year and, What I've learned from the podcast. And different relationships that I have made from the podcast and, just kind of where we're at now starting point for season three. So what did was I wrote down a whole bunch of, kinda just gobbledygook of where we were and I wrote some of the key themes of the episodes we've covered. recap. what we talked about then what we learned again. what I talked about, what I learned, and maybe how you're applying it to your life as I share with how I am using it in mind. so it has been a year now since my podcast launched. Um, I remember I excited and I felt like 2, 5 25 was such a cool day. I'm like, my podcast is launching 2 5 25. Um, this year as exciting of a date'cause I wanted to keep releasing things on Wednesdays, so it's not as jazzy as that. Um, but looking back in a whole year of where I was this time last year, being really nervous and scared, not just about the podcast, but about life and all the insecurities and just mental drama, I was. Mostly probably creating on my own and how I dealt with that. So if you remember, we had the trailer and then the first episode was about burnout. Actually, the first two episodes were burnout and boundaries, and those were issues that were so intense mostly with work. And my friend Laura, one of my dearest and best friends, Laura, was the guest on those episodes, And she talked about. The different starts, different parts of stress buckets and how knowing when your bucket was too full and how to let go of it and kind of how to deal with burnout. And while it was easy to talk about what burnout was and how to fix it it was not easy in real life to fix. And that's why the Boundaries episode followed up with it was so good too, is really kind of understanding where your limitations are, how to build those boundaries, how to know. Like when to say no and how to say no, and not just saying no, but being comfortable with it. and I am going to tell you, if you, listen to season one and season two, you know that that was a recurring struggle for me. Being able to say no. Being able to put those boundaries, I mean, I could make boundaries, but keeping them in place and kind of staying true to them was not as easy. I am proud to say that I have made it quite a long way. So, for 2026, Um, my phrase at work has been peace over chaos. Uh, last year at work was very, very, very hard, and hard is not even really the best word for it. It was challenging, Scary. It was complicated. It was It was a lot. It was a lot And um, a lot of that is the reason why season two was as short as it was, there was a lot going on. Um, and by the end of the year, like November, December, I was just, ugh. Such a mess. And I realized that a lot of it was me, but so much of it was from other people too. And I'm not. Placing the blame anywhere, but this is going to explain to you why peace over chaos has become such a mantra with me. Now I realize that like I There wasn't a lot of critical thinking. Something would come in. People would, Spiral and then send it to somebody else who would then spiral, and then suddenly you have multiple people spiraling, possibly working on the same task or the same task slightly differently, or like just chaos. It was literal chaos. Every day was like, oh, what grand chaos is going to be today? And I don't mean grand like a good thing. I mean grand like. What is this? so over the holidays having some time to reflect, I was like, you know what? I'm not doing this anymore. I am not getting sucked into other people's drama. I am not spiraling with them. I am not taking every urgent task That, let's be honest, like eight times out of 10 is probably. Not an emergency or urgent at all. I am not getting stuck into that. Everything's an urgent, everything's an emergency. Everything needs to be done right now. Ah, I, can't, I, I cannot, I cannot do that anymore. So that's where peace over chaos really stemmed from, is it's, a. Conscious choice. where when something does come in, whether it's a phone call or an email or a chat or somebody stopping by my office and saying, oh my gosh, Kristen, we have to do this. It has to be done by close of business. and you let's take a step back and let's say, okay, what actually needs to be done? What's the intent of it? When is it due? Why is it due that time? And realistically, what can we really do about it? So it's what I like to call critical thinking. And instead of just and jumping through hoops and sometimes flaming hoops, like, let's just take a step back because nothing is that important. Like I. It's just not okay. There are things that are like clearly if I was working like, I don't know, in an emergency room or a war zone, or I don't know, like one of those jobs where you're really saving people's lives. okay, Maybe there are more emergencies. There is not in my job or in my current field, no emergencies that warrant that kind of chaos. So. peace over chaos, and I'm gonna talk about this a lot more. I'm like So into peace over chaos. I tell it to everybody and if somebody calls me and they're spiraling, I say, Okay. Peace over chaos. And I have said enough to some people that they know exactly what I mean. As soon as I say it, there's other people I am still working on. I have a friend from work. Um, this happened a couple weeks ago and she was calling about something and something needed to get done. I made a call and we we got it done. It was fine. and I called her after the fact and said, Hey, let's, let's, take a moment to reflect on this. Oh. When this all happened, did you choose peace or did you choose chaos? And she said It was problem solving. Kristen. I said, okay, let's try this again. Was it peace or was it chaos? And she was stuck on the fact that she didn't have time to choose peace. She just had to get it done. And I said, okay, well we're gonna work on this. It's piece over chaos and we can work on this together. And I'm probably at the point too, where I'm a little annoying about it, but I feel like. That's kind of what you have to do with some people to get it through their heads is like peace over chaos. And I had told, um, one of my supervisors, I said, Hey, I just wanna let you know going into this year, I'm really working on peace over chaos for me. And she's like, oh, I don't send every email I get, you know, I'm very, very cautious about what I send to people. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Like. I get it. I was telling you, this is for me so I could manage your expectations. So if you are not getting a response from me as soon as you think you should or as fast as you think you should, that you know where I'm coming from. and she was like, oh, well. thank you for letting me know. and then later, uh, she was in a meeting and she's like, well, Kristen told me I need to take my zen pills. I never once told her to take Zen pills, but the fact that that's how she translated what I shared with her still meant something like. This is managing up people, which is a skill that I am still working for her to kind of translate what I'm working on for myself as a way that she can work on it for herself, um, is kind of a big deal. So I will keep you posted as the year goes on, but for now, we are choosing peace over chaos and I would encourage you to do the same. So we talked about burnout and boundaries. Um, we talked about books and we talked about, uh, with Alexis what we were looking forward to reading in 2025. Some of our goals, I'm not gonna talk about that right now because there is an upcoming episode where Alexis and I kind of go over all of our reading of 2025 and what we're looking forward to in 2026 and what we're reading going forward. It's a really fun episode. Whether you love reading or you're just getting into reading And you're looking for some suggestions, there's gonna be a couple more episodes too, where we break down one of our favorite authors and another episode about Book talk and how it's influenced publishing. It's an episode you may wanna listen to. Uh, we'll see. Bye. Books will be another topic. And last year too, we had a whole book club where we read a book together and got together and discuss it And got input from listeners and, um, we might do that again. I've toyed around, I've gone back and forth books that I think that would be good for it, that would also. Kind of, um, translate well to podcasting. So no determinations there yet, but. Stay tuned. So then we talked a lot about, body stuff and We talked about weight, we talked about beauty and aging, and we talked about, um, well those are kind of the big things. We talked about that. So uh. If you remember, and if not, you can go back. All of these episodes are still out there, so you can go back and listen to any of them any time to get caught up on what we actually talked about. Um, but the weight one, I had talked about my weight struggles over the years, and I went from being a super skinny mini to, not and how I struggled with, even when I was skinny, feeling like I was too fat to then being fat and struggling with, is this okay? Is this not okay? And going back and forth with, again, diet, culture and all of that, and body positivity and like, this is fine. I am who I am. Ugh. It's a struggle. Um, and again, encourage you to go back and listen to that episode if you feel so inclined, because I do believe it is still an issue for a lot of people, myself included. But 2026 is the year of loving Kristin, and that sounds very, like, egotistical and silly I guess when I say it, but hopefully when I explain it a little bit more, it'll make more sense. I've struggled with my weight and my view of my weight, uh, for years, and I did go back and forth with. Starving myself, accepting myself, not really. And it was hard. So 2026, it kind of just got to the point where I was like, I am done with this. I am done with focusing on my weight. I am done looking at the scale. I am done judging my body against other people's bodies. I am done well, we're, we're working on that one. I am done with feeling like I'm the fat friend. Even if I am, but I can't look at that because I had a really hard time with that even last year. Even after recording, like again, 2025. What a great year You guys just, I did, I would see pictures of me with my friend group and be like, Hmm, yeah, there's Kristen, the Fat friend. You know that movie that came out? Oh, it's not even gonna say how many years.'cause it was probably longer than I think it was. Um, the Duff that designated Ugly Fat Friend. uh, like this is not a self pity thing. Like, guys don't feel bad for me. I promise there is like, there's, there's a promising ending of this story. Um, but that's how I felt last year and I was like, yeah, there I am I am the fat friend. Uh. I. Whatever. And it was hard for me to feel like I didn't fit in. I did, uh, to feel like they were judging me. they probably weren't. and feeling like, ugh, like I wasn't good enough because I was bigger than everybody else. and it was really hard for a very long time because I, I did, I felt like everybody was judging me, like everybody was looking at me and be like, oh, there's Kristen She's so huge. She's so whatever. Again, this isn't, this isn't, a, a, feel sorry for me moment. Because 2026, Kristen is over that, um, I have bought more clothes that fit me better, that I feel confident in, and I am dressing for the body I have because there is no point in trying to fight to get a different body. or to I just hate my body. Like, and you've heard it all the time, right? Like, oh, just love the skin you're in. Oh yes. you should. But everybody has to get to that point on their own and nobody's gonna force you to do it. And it has to be that realization of, I do, I love the way I do. Like, would I also love myself if I were a size four? Absolutely I would. However. there's parts of my body that I may not have if I were smaller. And um, those are some of my best features and even the parts of my body that I really thought I didn't love changing my perspective on it to actually love it has again, just built my confidence. I don't know how else to explain it. And again, like it's not like I'm some. cocky person just walking around like flaunting my body all the time, like I love my body. I don't need anybody else to love my body. and that's kind of where I'm at, which again, is a huge swing from where we were last year because I literally thought people were looking at me all the time and judging me based on what I look like. there probably are some people that are like, I get it. I'm a shallow, superficial person myself, so I accept that there are gonna be those people doing that. I don't care, like There's so many bigger things in life And so many more important things to worry about that I. It doesn't matter anymore. So that's kind of where I am with that one. Um, another thing, and I wasn't sure where in the episode I was gonna talk about this part, but it feels like a fitting place. So I don't know if you saw, um, in January. People were kind of getting on that 2016 trend, and it was like sharing pictures of you from 2016 and talking about where you were a decade ago, and I didn't remember 2016, like I didn't have any standout memories. I didn't have any big life moments or. Huge occasions that defined anything. I don't remember 2016. And as I started going through looking at pictures, I realized why I didn't remember 2016. Uh, 2016 was not a great year and different from how I say 2025 wasn't a great year in different aspects. Um, so, and maybe I'll share the pictures on my Instagram too. 2016 for me as I was going through the pictures was a lot of LuLaRoe, like so many leggings I had. So many leggings and pictures. I had pictures of leggings. I wanted to buy pictures of leggings that I was trying to find pictures of me trying on leggings'cause I would go to the LuLaRoe parties, like there was a lot of LuLaRoe and then Urban Decay. It was like the peak of my urban decay obsession, which also there was an episode about makeup in season one and my time as a beauty blogger. Mm, great episode. Feel free to go back to that one too. But. then I remember like, oh, it was the year of those matte liquid lipsticks that were phenomenal. That honestly I would still wear now even if they're not, you know, in fashion. Because I loved, like the fact it didn't come off, it was just a bold color. Ugh. I loved them. Um, 2016 was also the skinniest I had been, um, since before having a child. It was the skinniest I'd been probably hmm. It had been a long time. Um, and the pictures I had were fantastic. Like I, oh, I looked so hot. Um, like for real, you guys, like I was, I was, so hot. Um, but I didn't get there the right way. Like I also wasn't eating at all. I was working out a lot. Um, from 2015, probably into early 2016 too. It was not a healthy way to lose weight and I was not mentally in a good place. And in all the pictures like. I'm smiling and I'm so happy.'cause again, I got down to 173, which probably doesn't mean anything to anybody. And for a girl who was like 127 in high school, it was still huge. Um, but it was, it was such a big deal for me. And looking back at the pictures, it just made me sad. Um. for several reasons that I'm not gonna get into all of them now. I just wanted to bring it up. As it brought up, as I talked about the weight and accepting who I am now, is that even when I was at my skinniest, I wasn't happy. So that kind of solidified that like I'm choosing to be happy and if I can be happy at. I share a lot with you. I get very vulnerable. I am still not okay saying the weight, let's just say it's significantly more than 173, and I'm okay with it. Not okay enough to tell you, but I'm okay with it. to accept my body and to love the body that I have. Okay, so we also talked about when it came to the beauty stuff is a hair. And I had a whole episode with Alexis and talked about all the different things I had done to my hair and how I had shaved my hair off, you know, sort of Britney Spears style, not once, but twice, and how it had been like almost every color under the rainbow except for green. I'm not doing green hair. And uh, this, year, well it started in 2025. I decided I was going to grow, go on my gray journey And just grow my hair out. And if you're watching the video of this, you can see it's like all white in the front and it's gray and it's gray underneath and it's, it's kind of a little bit everywhere. It's not like as pretty as some of those people who go like all silver and like their hair is just gorgeous. We're not there yet, but this is a process. I am trusting the process and I'm going to see what happens. Maybe I'll hate it. Maybe I'll shave it off again. Maybe I'll go back to dying it. But I. along with loving the body I'm in, I'm also trying to love the hair I have. I'm wearing it wavy a whole lot more now. Um, I'd gone through like religiously straightening my hair and then I was curling it every day and then I was doing those overnight curlers, which really. Lazy girl's, way of curling hair. Phenomenal, highly recommend. Like, I already have curly hair now. It's kinda like, eh, whatever. Um, but I I have wavy to curly hair depending on the products and how I style it. So I was like, you know what? This is also the year that I am going natural, so I have not dyed my. hair. Since March of 2025. So we will soon be coming up on a whole year. Uh, I don't know how long it has to go to grow the whole way out. Um, I've trimmed my hair a little bit here and there. Oh yeah.'cause I'm also cutting my own hair now because why not? self-reliant. That's, that's what I'm, Uh, so we'll see. So I'm doing that. I did get red light therapy, so you know. My wrinkles are. At bay. I'm just being naturally me and I've talked a lot of season when I talked about authenticity and just being who you are and being who I am and all the things. And I am, uh, if and when you watch any of the video podcasts, you will see I don't have any makeup on. Most of my recordings, I don't have makeup on, or it's like makeup I had on during the day for work that I just, it's whatever's left over. Um, sometimes I'm wearing my glasses. Uh, today, authenticity authentically me. Uh, I spilled taco sauce, um, at dinner and then I tried to clean it off and then I just had a whole wet spot. and then it was a whole, the whole thing. So I am you guys. I'm kind of a messy eater, so, but that's fine. It's not the part of who I am. So let's see, what else did we talk about? Oh, purity culture. That was a hard episode to record. Full disclosure, I have not gone back and listened to it ever because. I think it's embarrassing. but it is. The episode that I have gotten the most comments on, it was not the most listened to episode of season one. That was the burnout one, But I have gotten the most comments on my purity culture. One with women thanking me, telling me that. Um, you know, it's something they also struggled with with how they were raised. Specifics of what people told me, but, um, it made me realize that it really was important that I record that episode. So update on that. I have become more open with talking about sex, which still a little outside my comfort zone. There are certain friends I will talk to about it. Uh, you know who you are And just trying to be more open about it. Also, Uh, having more sex because apparently the way to fix not wanting to have sex ever is to just do it all the time. Um, TMI, perhaps, but also there may be somebody out there who needs to know that. So if you're uncomfortable with your body. or if you just don't feel sexy and not feeling sexy, makes you want to not have sex, uh, you just have to do it. I dunno if that's great advice. Um, and maybe it sounds silly and again. Maybe this is being too vulnerable with you all, but. And I don't know if this is a chicken or egg thing, like which one came first, but loving my body more makes me feel more sexy, which makes me more willing to have more sex. Having more sex, and feeling loved Makes me love my body more I don't know what the advice is there. I'm just, sharing my Experience with you all. So here you go. We talked a lot, a lot about friendship, and we talked about friendship a lot because this is something, as an adult I have struggled with forever. forever, maybe extreme, but it feels like it. Um, I've never had a hard time making friends. Uh, I'm so fun. People are just drawn to me. I make friends very easily. acquaintances I make acquaintances very easily, and as I talked about in one of the episodes last year, maybe more I don't remember, is that I have a hard time getting past the shallow part of friendships. I am the social friend. I will go do things with you. I'll go shopping with you. I'll get coffee with you. I will sit and talk with you. I will ask you all about your life. I will care about you a lot. I will not tell you very much about myself, which is ironic as I tell you, the listener, uh, so much about my life that you probably don't even care about. But I have a really hard time opening to other people. Um, probably because I just assume that eventually everybody is going to decide they hate me and not want to be my friend anymore. And if I don't open up to them, then um, I'm not hurt. Like if I stop being friends with somebody or somebody stops being friends with me, I didn't lose anything'cause I didn't open myself enough to lose anything. Uh. Not a great way to make lasting friendships, which is why I have so few of them. So I really tried to focus, uh, last year, um, about making more friends and not even making more friends, but making more meaningful relationships and more meaningful friendships. and if you, I don't remember which episode it was in, but there was an episode in season one where I was talking about like, how do you just make new friends? You're like, hi, do I wanna be, do you wanna be my friend? And I had talked about how one of my son's friend's moms And I had kept saying about how like, oh, we should hang out. Oh. And I had said, I remember,'cause I got very close to the microphone. I was like, Jenny, if you're out. there, yes I do wanna get coffee. So Jenny heard it, reached out. we got coffee and I consider her one of my really good friends now. I really appreciate her. I've invited her to my parties. I like, she's in my close circle of friends now. I've gone to party at her house. And then in season two, With the episodes when we were talking about letting go of social media and how I went On and on about how I wanted life to be like in the fifties or the forties, like when you would just get together with your girlfriends and sip tea and talk about the going ons of things and writing letters, and why don't people write letters anymore? And then, um, Jenny wrote me letters. And we became pen pals and we have exchanged a number of letters up until over the holidays. and, um, we're still waiting to get back, of into everything and start writing again. And that was, it. was huge. Like it was. such an amazing thing'cause I didn't know she was gonna do it. And all of a sudden I got a letter and I was like, ah. And then I wrote back to her and then she wrote back to me. And it's different. I mean, we'll still text each other, but the stuff in the letters is a different level of what we're talking about and things we're sharing and then just building on that friendship. So Jenny, if you're out there. Thank you for getting coffee with me and thank you for becoming one of my best friends, since 2025 to present, and I'm looking forward to hanging out with you more. Yay. Um, and it wasn't just Jenny, there have been other people. Um, my friend Greta, she will randomly message me and be like, wanna get a drink? and we'll just go to the little bar in our neighborhood and meet up, um, usually on a Friday after work and kind of talk about what's gone on that week. It's little things like that where I. It's not really putting in a lot of effort, but there's a lot to come out of it, and I think out of all the things I talked about in friendship and how to make friends and how to keep friends and how hard long distance friendship is, You You have to be willing to open yourself And allow the people who want to know you to get to know you. I think that's the moral of the story and that's what I've been working on since those episodes. Um, and then self-acceptance. So that was a, there was an episode of that that we had towards the end of season one, and I feel like that does kind of just encompass everything that I've been talking about today, about accepting who I am, accepting, you know even the peace over chaos is kind of an acceptance, you can't do everything. It's just, it's not possible. And you've gotta know your limits and put those boundaries in place for those limits so that you don't get burnout. Choosing peace over chaos is one of those And Accepting my body, accepting my size, where I am in life. Like accepting all of that is just, it's freeing. Like there is no other word that I can think of is just, I feel free. I don't know. I think for a while I was judging myself on so many areas too, and I was kind of hindering my own growth because I had this vision of what I thought I was supposed to be, and every time I didn't meet that vision, I felt like I was failing that's something we can talk about in season three,'cause that's not something I've mastered yet. But self-acceptance was huge. And then season two, as I mentioned, we talked about social media and um, letting go of that and getting out and touching grass. And this was one of the big goals I had for 2026 also was less screen time, which everybody says, right. But I am really working on Limiting my social media because it's not good for anybody. I have a system now. Where I check it, you know, in the morning and evening I check notifications and then I check like just my friends on Facebook and I'll scroll just a little bit on Instagram just to kind of see what's there. But I'm not getting stuck in the doom scrolling anymore. And you know, maybe that's why I'm feeling better in 2026 also because I'm not seeing everybody else's life, and comparing myself to them. And now I'm just focused on me, which again, sounds so like, Hockey, like, oh, it's all about me, but you know what it is because it's my life. Why shouldn't it be all about me and my husband and my son? You know what I mean? Right. Like, focusing on other people's lives and what they're doing and what they've got going on and what they're posting really has no effect on me at all. Like, it doesn't change what I'm doing, like It's just noise. And I think getting rid of the noise and just focusing on me and my life and my family. My job, like, things that are, things that I value, i'm able to do more without the distractions. and then We talked about seasons of change and then resilience at towards the end of season two. And it's funny because, you know, in the example. That I used in the resilience episode was about how my son didn't make a team, or you know, when I didn't get promoted when I thought I should have, or, you know, didn't get parts in plays and all the things that I didn't get. And then 2025 was interesting because I did get something that. Wasn't sure I wanted. And I, I thought I would do a whole episode on this, and I never did. I, I don't know if I will or not. Um, but in 2025, I got a new job I didn't ask for, new job. I hadn't technically applied to, it was I don't wanna say better. it was. A different job than I was in, I was selected because of the skills I had. It was a good thing. Wasn't because I was demoted or fired or anything. Was, it was, a positive. thing. I, Struggled for a while to see it as a positive I felt that I was being put in a position that, I wasn't ready for. Looking back now was silly because. I think I'm doing pretty good at it. The point is it was interesting seeing resilience from another side when it wasn't something that I didn't get, that I had to learn and grow from that. It was something that I actually got still had to learn and go grow learn And grow from. But I guess it kind of was like losing my other job Again, not losing, but moving on to this new one. And at a time I wasn't expecting. cause usually when I apply for a job, it's kind of like I'm ready to move on and I'm ready to leave where I'm at. Wasn't ready to leave where I was, that there was still things I wanted to accomplish. People that I cared about that I wanted to see accomplish more things. and I felt Because it wasn't on my timeline, I wasn't ready. It It was a growth experience and honestly, I think it's probably led to some of the self-acceptance and self-confidence also showing that I took on this thing that I didn't think I was going to be able to do and I'm doing it. so. And the, the, other thing I thought that I would mention very briefly towards the end of season when I talked about 10 things I'm loving, and a lot of them I still am, especially the Oklahoma City Thunder, I've said this a couple times and I feel like I have to keep saying it so that I can manifest it and make it happen. I want to get Mark Dal on my podcast so badly, like watch, so I watch the games. Also, my husband teases me because. Like I live in a house of boys and I'm the one there watching the games all the way through the press conferences. It's my favorite part. At the end of the game, they'll interview Mark first, and then they'll usually interview Shay chat, sometimes J Dub. I mean, the third one is Kind of a toss up. Depends on who had a good game or who had something big going on. But they always talk to Mark first, and the, stuff he says is interviews. I've shared a couple on my Instagram. It's just, I feel like it is not just geared towards basketball or sports or coaching, that they're literal life lessons. How he talks about the zero zero mentality. You know, you're starting fresh every time. how he talks about the basketball season as a whole 82 games and you know, you, you just. Play the one that you're at right now, The system and how you have the system and when people know the system and they have the common goal, they all wanna win. They work together. There's just so many things that I see overlapping from how Mark runs. His coaching aspect of the team and things that I have learned from both leadership courses I've been to and from my master's program. There's so many overlaps and I wanna talk to him about his leadership style and how he got there, his philosophy, and Make those connections of how what he uses to coach basketball players is also relatable in the business world. Or in corporate America, or probably in teaching in schools and other places there are. Universal truths that I think the world should know about. And I don't care what you think about basketball Like, there's just, More to it. I love watching how he coaches. I love watching how he talks about coaching. I love how he talks about his players. Um, if anybody has any connections to the Oklahoma City Thunder Program or to Mark, let him know. Uh, I understand he's a busy man. We're probably gonna playoffs again. I'll probably, I dunno, I'm not gonna make any predictions because the season's been kind of a little touch and go right now as I'm recording. But that is my plan for this podcast is someday I will talk to Mark That's that. there was a lot, I I know there was a lot, but I felt like we had to level set where we were in season one, kind of how we had our little season, two little little moment. And now going into season three where we are. Uh, there's probably still some insecurities, but I don't focus on them because again, it's kinda like the social media noise. It doesn't do anything to benefit me. Just. full steam ahead. And I hope that you will join me on this journey. So there's a lot to look forward to in season three. As of right now, as I'm recording this, I am still planning on doing an every other week episode, Just because I don't want to get too bogged down. Um, so there'll still be content. There'll be Steph. Can reach out to me. You can find me on Facebook, on Instagram, you can email me. It's out there too. And of course, listen to podcasts, anywhere you get podcasts. And now you can watch me on YouTube too and feel like we're even more connected. Thanks for joining me on this journey, and I can't wait to see everything else we talk about. Bye bye.

Thanks for spending this time with me. I hope this conversation made you feel a little less alone. Take care of yourself and I'll talk with you soon.

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